Buenos dias, fellow summoners! I have a question. Has anyone here ever witnessed or seen convincing footage of a 'nuts and bolts' UFO? And by that I mean something that is demonstratively a physically 'made' unidentifiable flying object and not an organic or metamorphological entity. I've only ever seen one convincing piece of film, and it's a cigar shaped UFO in the video below. Everything else i've seen has looked like CGI or a dodgy hoax (George Adamski, Billy Meier, etc) Cheers.
Jeffrey Harrison What looks like a 'made craft' and something that's more organic will blur, and is also a matter or perception and conjecture.
I thought of another piece of footage, which is of two American 'surfer dude' types on a ship and with a flying craft passing overhead. It's quite a famous piece of film, but I can't seem to find it at the moment.
Jeremy Thomas Jeffrey Harrison we had shared that footage here and on close examination it can be seen to be polymorphic/morphing. I believe that if any piece of "equipment" exist from any real advanced beings it will look "alive" to us.
Mechanical artifacts created in the minds of classical ufologists are even sometimes behind current human technology, the inconsistencies on that are enough for me to reject the "toys" model of classical ufology that as it had been mentioned here are not based in a systematic and direct observation of reality, consistent observational data reign suppreme.
Jeremy Thomas Imagine that you can go back in time to Newton's time and show him a modern car that can be started by remote control, responding to voice commands, etc. Newton himself will denounce you for practicing witchcraft, very likely you will be burned for that and the car destroyed because is the result of satanic forces.
The more that we go back in time the more "magical" that current human technology will look to fellow humans.
And that is the fundamental mistake done usually by classic ufologists, they assume that "visiting" being will have a level of technology that we can identify and that assumption is very likey wrong just looking at our own technological evolution.
Jeremy Thomas This is the footage mentioned by Jeffrey Harrison above, it never fails to be amazing and refreshing:
this was a real ufo we spotted in victoria british columbia on june 29th 2008 after a sailing trip. the interesting thing is that if you look at my youtube p...